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	Stop Re-updating Please posted by XelloBlue @ 72.37.171.28 on Jun 7 2010 3:58 PM
So sad news, spring didn't really get updated. The update listed above occurred on 2010-03-16 (about 3 months ago). In fact I have seen this update listed on this site more than twice. Would the person making these extra update copy posts please stop doing so. I get really excited when I see a new spring release (as they don't release often) and I get disappointed by the sad news that this is old news. Also I use this site to track Linux game releases, by reposing you are making this site less creditable. And finally TA Spring is the best RTS EVER!!!
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	Giving it only 4 stars... posted by gilboa @ 85.65.245.177 on Apr 27 2010 2:38 PM
The engine itself is very impressive, but game installation could have been far easier (hence only 4 stars), took me a while to get rapid working (Fedora 12 / x86_64) and the rest of the missing files. Never the less, very impressive. Hopefully both engine and games will continue improving. - Gilboa
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	TA Spring posted by 569874123 @ 85.243.160.229 on Aug 24 2009 3:45 PM
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	thanks! posted by bart9h @ 189.24.125.134 on Jun 6 2009 1:14 PM
Competent re-implementation of, by FAR, the best RTS ever. TA is to the rest of the RTS as chess is to checkers.
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Re: thanks! posted by releppes @ 74.39.135.225 on Jun 7 2010 1:54 PM   As much as I liked TA, I still can't understand why people hold TA so high above other RTS games. At the time, TA was at the top due to it's graphics engine. In comparison to StarCraft, Red Alert and DarkReign, TA units had really nice animations. My favorite part was how each turret on a destroyer pivoted independently and the recoil animation from each barrel in each turret. The level of detail was great. I also liked the simplistic economy. But for the strategy element of TA, it wasn't better. It was pain old mass and destroy. The storyline and main UI were terrible. One of TA's big claim to fame was the 100+ unique units. In my view, that was more a hindrance. The units were imbalanced and there was little difference between them. The audio was the worse. Every unit had pretty much the same sound track. Very boring to listen to while playing. StarCraft by far had much more strategic elements. Fewer units to chose from, but much more varied than TA. Anyway, TA was a good game. Ahead of the pack with regards to it's engine. But as a strategy game, I found it very lack luster. Oh, and the path finding algorithm in TA was horrible. The units would always take the shortest path true, even if the shortest path took ten times longer to complete. I remember having to micro manage every unit while playing TA. I had to way point everything because the AI would always take the worse route possible. No, TA is not chess. It's checkers just like the rest of them. But they're really nice checkers. Like Crisloid checkers.   [Reply]

	THIS GAME SUCKS!! posted by Neuromancer @ 24.147.234.141 on Apr 11 2009 9:46 PM
THIS GAME WOULD BE GREAT...IF YOU COULD GET PAST THE LOBBY. It turns out there are thousands of community maps but you can't download them in bulk with a web browser. instead, you are forced to use a crappy torrent program that's integrated into the lobby and it doesn't work most of the time...and before you say anything, Yes, I opened ports for it on my firewall. I spent an afternoon trying to connect to servers (which was also problematic) and only managed to play one game. The graphics are great and the gameplay is awesome but GOOD LUCK TRYING TO CONNECT. The game also spreads directories and files all over my home/ directory. This will be a fine mess to uninstall. This game gets 1 star.
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Re: THIS GAME SUCKS!! posted by Nemoder @ 68.116.29.29 on Jun 6 2009 10:22 AM http://jobjol.nl/   [Reply]   Re: THIS GAME SUCKS!! posted by Dmytry @ 78.56.104.90 on Jul 18 2009 7:22 PM   Main channel's topic contains links to mod download sites. Failing to read the channel topic, you can ask in the lobby to get told to read the damn topic.   [Reply]   Re: THIS GAME SUCKS!! posted by Pxtl @ 216.185.68.196 on Jul 23 2009 4:21 PM A quick explanation for why this problem occurred: Spring was originally a Windows-only game. The first lobby was developed in Delphi, a windows-only language. As such, the cross-platform lobby lags far behind the Windows one in terms of usability and features. Also, there's a second Windows-only tool called SpringDownloader which handles the torrent system and fetching the latest version of CA (a game with a rapid release-cycle so they developed a rapid-updater for it). Both of these featuresets had to be bundled into the much younger SpringLobby app. As such, the cross-platform lobby is a bit of a pain. In fact, there was so much frustration with SpringLobby that a second cross-platform lobby called QtLobby is under development. I haven't looked at either codebase, so I don't know why the QtLobby dev is working from scratch instead of forking SpringLobby, but either way QtLobby looks promising. However, don't let this scare you off from Spring. SpringLobby is a little clunky, but it's not some nightmare of crashes and command-line arguments or anything. It just has some weird refreshing issues and the UI is occaisionally a little clumsy - like the poor user feedback on the map-downloading section that led to the complaint above.   [Reply]

	great rts posted by trav @ 118.208.158.33 on Jan 17 2009 11:21 PM
I loved TA and spring is not just a faithful recreation, but also delivers more playability than the original. I found the lobby and game finding tools extremely handy, and the online community was always large enough to find a game (that's circa 2006 so YMMV depending on time). I didn't try out any of the mods, but I've heard they're pretty extensive. It's good to see that someone is still maintaining the code even after the original core team has moved on to a new project, I might even fire this one up and try a mod.
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Re: great rts posted by trav @ 118.208.158.33 on Jan 17 2009 11:27 PM unfortunately the spring.clan.sy.com web site is down, and according to the spring wikipedia talk page it's been down since 06/10/08 which doesn't bode well... It does however make me question the legitimacy of this update   [Reply]   Re: great rts posted by lulzmuffin @ 74.34.117.140 on Jan 18 2009 10:19 AM Your wikipedia discussion is incorrect and probally refers to some other downtime that has passed yet not updated on wikipedia. I noticed that it was down today too[along as the taserver], but spring was working wonderfully on the 15th, I played a few rounds of deltaseigedry ba multiplayer on the new version just fine.   [Reply]   Re: great rts posted by lulzmuffin @ 74.34.117.140 on Jan 18 2009 10:28 PM And the site is back up again. :) As well as a new version (Bugfix release: 0.78.2.1). Not really worth an update though for this new version.   [Reply]

	Complete Annihilation posted by damn @ 75.46.12.74 on Dec 11 2008 12:55 AM
If such an analogy was possible to do well, I would say that Spring is the Mozilla of three dimensional real time strategy gaming. The number, usefulness, and innovation of the add-ons for this game allow you to become a one man command and control center for armies which do not blink at the loss of several thousand glittering artillery mechs. According to my experience with seven computers with varying graphics cards and architecture, not only does the graphics performance of this game beat that of any and all competitors, including Supreme_Commander and Command_and_Conquer. However, its aesthetic appearance, from dazzling sunsets and water rendering to deformable terrain, script controlled weather, and trees taller than the map is wide. As for gameplay, nothing matches the variety of Spring. It has literally hundreds of unique mods. A few examples come to mind, like fight with and in intricately detailed Star Wars fighter planes on an island, orbital doomsday LASER devices on a continent, or bits and bytes in a computer core map. Spring has more and better features than any other set of R.T.S. games.
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	links posted by Nemoder @ 68.116.29.29 on Feb 6 2008 3:51 AM
You may wish to update the links here. There is no longer a need to run the windows lobby in wine as there is a fully functional native lobby: http://trac.springlobby.info/ Also there is a wiki guide for people having trouble installing it on linux: http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/SetupGuide
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Re: links posted by nath @ 88.72.237.104 on Jul 10 2008 10:15 PM   Please, feel free to submit this as an update.   [Reply]

	It rocks! posted by dejan @ 79.73.157.3 on Feb 4 2008 5:33 PM
I play this game quite often, and it is always a great fun!!
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	TA Spring posted by Anonymous @ 78.145.121.244 on Feb 3 2008 11:49 PM
Does anyone know how to get this working on a LAN? All I get when connecting to the machine serving is "Connecting to server..." scrolling repeatedly. Same result no matter who tries to host.
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Re: TA Spring posted by vladmihaisima @ 82.210.94.101 on Feb 6 2008 1:12 AM You can find details here: Spring on LAN Also if you have more questions is better to ask here : Spring forum   [Reply]